Dark River Discussion ***SPOILERS***

[Sunsetfur]

[glow=green,2,300]SPOILERS, BEWARE!! [/glow]

Well...discuss Dark River here! Thoughts, debates, questions, observations, predictions for the next book, etc. ;D

I noticed two mistakes in the book. Once, it called Firestar's eyes amber instead of green (this was pathetic; they couldn't even get the big hero's eyes right). Also, Heavystep, who died in Sunset, lives! He's listed as a living cat and even appeared at least once in the story context.

[moonrain]

I liked the book. One thing I thought was funny though. Jaypaw on p47 "This must be part of his power, the ability to hear things no other cat could."
That's not exactly a good thing

Also we never found out if RiverClan was able to go back to their camp. (Not that I can think of reading anyway)

[Sunsetfur]

LOL, that's great.

I guess you can just assume that RiverClan eventually got rid of the kids, though it never stated it. Before Hollypaw went there and found out the truth, I suspected that the camp had been flooded because of all the rain and its closeness to the river.

[moonrain]

Now that I actually think (shocking I know) it should hopefully be resolved (whether peacefully or not to be decided ) in the next book

[Waterfall]

I got Dark River yesterday and finished it today while I stayed home because I didn't feel that well. I thought overall it was a really good book. I wish there had been a battle or Sorreltail's and Daisy's kits became Warriors, or Ferncloud's kits became apprentices, but it was still good. If you read the preview of Outcast, I thought it seemed like it would be a great book!! What do you think??

[Beautiful Beautypelt]

I got Dark River and Warriors Refuge yesterday! *does the happy dance*

[Waterfall]

Sweet! I got mine the day b4 yesterday and finshed them yesterday....

[[[_ moon/beam]

There's a preview for Outcast???

-rabid eye twitch- GIMME LINK.

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[Waterfall]

Yes and it says Berrypaw's name is Berrynose! I can't wait until Outcast comes out!! The preview is at the end of Dark River. There is a preview for Cats Of The Clans at the end of Warriors Refuge! Check them out!

[¢~Sky{frosty}~¢]

omg! berrynose is such an awful name!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ewie!

[Waterfall]

Yeah it's ok, but it's definately not my favorite.....

[Beautiful Beautypelt]

I was really hoping he would be named Berrybush. But, it could've been worse I guess.

Anyways, I spotted that two hints in Dark River.

1. It was hinted that Hollypaw will be the wicked one of Squirrelflight's kits. In Lionpaw's nightmare, her eyes gone from green to amber ( like Tigerstar's ) and she turned into a fox with blood on her teeth.

But, Lionpaw did became ambitious lately. And he did chose to follow Tigerstar and Hawkfrost ( hacks up a hairball ).

I think we can safely say that Jaypaw's not going to be the wicked one.

2. I still won't scratch Ashfur off my suspect list, but it was also hinted in Dark River that Thornclaw was the one that helped Hawkfrost trap Firestar in the fox trap. Here's what I've read -











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(( WindClan's been hunting squirrels. ))

"Why doesn't Firestar mention the squirrels?" Spiderleg hissed.

"Is he too scared to speak?"

Hollypaw jerked her head to see which ThunderClan warrior had muttered the question. Thornclaw was glaring at Firestar.

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That may not be a lot of hints, but it was enough to get me suspicious.

Think about it, Thornclaw would be the perfect traitor. He's the first cat that Firestar ever made into a warrior. That'll add a lot of drama if he's the one that wanted Firestar dead and wish Brambleclaw harm.

But, Ashfur could be it too. He'll be a perfect villian too.

Now about Lionpaw. I've already made a thread about how I think he's going to be the wicked one. And he's been acting oddly ambitious and he DID chose to follow the diamic duo ( Tigerstar and Hawkfrost ).

But, Hollypaw could be the wicked one too. Lionpaw's nightmare and how the three Erins said that there will be a feamle antagonist, Hollypaw could be it instead.

So, I seriously doubt that Jaypaw will be the wicked one.

I don't like to brag or anything, but I am good at spotting hints. Before I read about the Hawkfrost rumors, I knew that Hawkfrost was going to be no good ever since I read Moonrise.

So, what do y'all think about these hints?

[¢~Sky{frosty}~¢]

I doubt it, Thornclaw is too subordinate. Not good enough.

I think The antagonist wil be heatherpaW!!!!!!!! i'm telling you, she's the perfect and ideal traitor to lionpaw!

Imagine it,

"Oh, Heather----(?) why did you do this? you could destroy the forest! All peace will be lost!" Lion----(?) whispered in anguish.

"Lion----(?) Don't think because of what we once had make this any different, you will not convince me of what is right for my clan! Tigerstar has made me strong, and I am prepared to fight for what I believe in! Windclan will prevail, and we will concur! Windclan's time of weakness is over! Now all the clans will be at our mercy!" Heather----(?) ranted, eyes gleaming with dangerous ambition.

It's perfect! isn't it? Just ideal.


And yes, if you're wondering, I did right those... *bows* "thank you! Thank you so much" jk! it was cr33py.

[Beautiful Beautypelt]

warriors said:

I doubt it, Thornclaw is too subordinate. Not good enough.

I think The antagonist wil be heatherpaW!!!!!!!! i'm telling you, she's the perfect and ideal traitor to lionpaw!

Imagine it,

"Oh, Heather----(?) why did you do this? you could destroy the forest! All peace will be lost!" Lion----(?) whispered in anguish.

"Lion----(?) Don't think because of what we once had make this any different, you will not convince me of what is right for my clan! Tigerstar has made me strong, and I am prepared to fight for what I believe in! Windclan will prevail, and we will concur! Windclan's time of weakness is over! Now all the clans will be at our mercy!" Heather----(?) ranted, eyes gleaming with dangerous ambition.

It's perfect! isn't it? Just ideal.


And yes, if you're wondering, I did right those... *bows* "thank you! Thank you so much" jk! it was cr33py.

I seriously doubt that will ever happen. Tigerstar only visits his kin and he thinks that WindClan is weak. I don't see that happening I'm afraid.

[¢~Sky{frosty}~¢]

Tigerstar could have seen the free thinking and ambition in Heatherpaw while she was meeting Lionpaw, and held interest in her. And decide to use her to take over the forest from an unsuspected clan. heh? heh?

[Waterfall]

I guessed that Hawkfrost would be evil, it was kind of obvious if you ask me because first of all he like worships Tigerstar, second of all he meets him in his dreams, third of all he was way too ambitious, and fourth of all Tigerstar was his father. I still think little Mr. Perfect will be the evil one Lionpaw). I also still think that Leafpool and Crowfeather are Jaypaw's parents. I also think they both still have feelings for each other.

[Sunsetfur]

Mmm. It's obvious that Leafpool still cares for Crowfeather, since they keep getting put side by side in sooo many situations. And I hope that Hollypaw will be evil...but Heatherpaw would rock as a villainess as well. I really really want someone of Firestar's bloodline to be completely and totally evil, not just be mean for a while then decide that "family matters most" at the end. Bleh.

I think the Thornclaw thing was just put in there to emphasize that there are a lot of cats in ThunderClan who oppose a lot of Firestar's decisions. Could build up to a lot of tension in later books.

Skyfrost, I'm in love with your sig.